> Which of the veeples who are reading this can/will tell us more about > this material or 'channa'? There's not much known about the pharmacology of mesembrine. Its effects in humans are similar if not identical to those of kanna. Early experiments [using 5g chewed plant, 15g decocted plant, and 150mg mesembrine, separately] showed effects such as tingling in the mouth, gagging reflex, congested feeling in the head, noises in the ears, mydriasis, analgesia, and loss of appetite. It's been suggested by some modern experimenters they may have serotonergic effects. In smaller doses kanna is more pleasant; on occasion I've found it to produce [snuffed or sublingually] mild mood enhancement and a state of relaxed alertness. The plant [Sceletium sp. - often S. tortuosum] is usually prepared by crushing the whole plant and leaving it to 'ferment' in a closed, airtight bag for about 8 days. This serves to reduce oxalate levels, and to modify the alkaloid profile. This preparation is also known as kougoed. The plants are claimed to not be active if this preparation is not followed. Recent research [Smith, M.T. et al. 1998. "The distribution of mesembrine alkaloids in selected taxa of the Mesembryanthemaceae and their modification in the Sceletium-derived 'kougoed'." Pharmaceutical Biology 36(3):173-179] seems to suggest that in the final dried product, mesembrenone is the major alkaloid, and mesembrine levels are much reduced. This would suggest to me that mesembrenone has similar properties to mesembrine. Perhaps people have also extracted alkaloids from prepared Sceletium and assumed them to be mesembrine, leading to some misleading bioassays. BTW, the above paper also found that simply crushing and drying at 80 degrees C serves the same purpose as the 'fermentation' approach. take care, Chr.