1) FEEDBACK The cebil seeds are very powerfull. thank you for youe assistance in this movement. i want to let you know that if the proper amount of lime is not added the seeds are weak and not visual at all with out snorting insane amounts of seeds. i ran into this problem recently, when i first tried your seeds i thought the seeds were low quality fortunately i found they are insanely powerfull if enough lim is added. Sodium bicarbonate (bakeing soda) is supposed to work as well johnathan ott uses it, but im not sure how effective it is or how powerfull it would be in comparision to the lime paste i use. i found that the longer the lime paste sits with the mixture the less painfull the snuff is. the lime makes it hurt very bad especialy when fresh. 2) one thing that worked for me was soaking the ground up seeds in vodka for 2 weeks, filtering well, and then evaporating off the vodka. I was left with a black/brown gum which was more potent than the seeds and definitely easier on the lungs. I had visions of ancient empires, fairytale kings, and hands on healing was very powerful through this state 3) take four seeds 8 will work as well its better to prepair more at once then to under do because some folks need to keep snorting until they get to were they need to be with it. so take some seeds and toast them in the oven or in a frying pan until they puff up and some will pop like corn almost thats ok as long as they dont burn dont let them burn. then let them cool and test if they are dry/hard on the inside or if they are still rubbery on the inside if so they need to toast more. if dry and hard grind them to a fine a powder as you can. now this is the secret and tricky part add lime stone paste or the edible lime that is added to coca leaves for chewing them, this may be very harsh on the nose very very very harsh but it works well. personaly im trying to find an alternative to this traditionaly they used the ashes of burnt snail shells or conk shells this ash may be just as effective but less painfull then lime stone so its worth a shot. add a small amount of the lime to the snuff just enough to make sure the lime powder is mixed in well with it all but not alot at all experiment with that for your self i still need to balance it out for the pain end of it. like i siad lime hurts and is prone to make you get a sinus infection for a few days. 4) its amazing stuff like ayahuasca almost and very powerfull it has a strong voice and it is a good teacher i can see why the natives of southern south america used it for so long thousands of years and there are still natives in your land that still use it. my hope is to make snuff kits and distribute the snuff to travelers nomads, and my tribe, it is a great way to get reintigrated it lasts only an hour though you can keep snuffing it and keep it going for as long as you want. 4 seeds is all it takes and wow is that enough. my hope is that by introducing this medicine to people it can assist them in opening up more to the spirit of the land and keep them highly tuned to the unitative spirit of all that is. its very good for healing and shape changing and has a strong jaguar spirit tuned to it. 5) it has been my experience personaly with the seeds and with the 25 people i have done ceremony with, that with out the right amount of lime the seeds though still active with out the lime are inaffective at producing the visions and entheogenic effects that make snuffing the seeds worth while. with out lime the seeds produce a strong body high and mental space that is very psychoactive, at the dose of four seeds at the dose of twenty seeds ( alot of snuff to cram up the sinuses) you begin to taste what the seeds can do but it is a pale comparision very little visual activity. by adding enough lime to the snuff four seeds can bring about a state of consciousness which i could only compare to the peek of a mushroom trip or freebaseing DMT very very powerfull visions with intense color paterning. complete with the purgative/healing activity the ayahuasca possess. i would go so far as to say the yopo is like a really short ayahuasca session lasting an hour and a half, if not enough lime is added one must snort three time the amount such as twelve seeds but if a fourth of the snuff is lime then the effects are insanely powerfull and healing. the lime must be left to sit and cure in the seeds when the lime is freshly added its very painfull i wait a week after prepairing it. the amount of snuff needed to produce the desired effects with lime is a pile the size of a penny ( a small coin). i think many people have very mixed feelings about yopo as i did when first experimenting with it. I thought the seeds were nothing more then an intoxicant bringing about a mild trance state which could slightly enhance healing and divination, but when I finally statred adding lime stone paste in the right amounts ( which took me a year to get right) it is powerfull and effective every time. Last night i did a yopo ceremony for six people in which i led the ceremony and preformed healing magic. i was also on the snuff. the results were powerfull and most amazing, many people got well and learned alot about life. one man lost any memeory of the experience had a total black out while he violently purged out alot of his own black magic. it was a powerfull ceremony many spirits came and assisted in healing and teaching mainly the hekula or sky spirits that live in yopos branches. it was a good ceremony. a previous ceremony two weeks prior i think i told you about. i had not added enough lime and the seeds were not strong enough people had to snort so much snuff that every one was pukeing from the pain, and the yopo was not strong enough to bring the people powerfull visions. I added more lime to what i had prepared and snuffed it the next day, snorting half of what i snuffed the day before, this time the snuff was so powerfull that it knocked me to the ground it instantly snet me to the sprit world were i met the mermaids who said they would become my allies in love and healing magic also so that i can travle to the underwater worlds. this dose which was half of what i took the night before was still to high of a dose, and i think takeing two thirds of that amount would have been better. From as far as i can tell no one knows what the hell they are doign witif they do get it right which i have yet to speak to any one who has, the experince has all the magic elements of ayahuasca its quite amazing. Its confussing because when you snort the seeds fresh or roasted with out lime you can get high, its definitly psychoactive, but unless you add the right amount of lime your experience is a pale shadow of what the seeds can do. many who dont get it right may find the experience novel yet some what worthless while.